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CHRISTIANITY

IS

APOSTATE

 

Christianity boasts that the true faith, or at least enough of it to keep salvation possible, will always exist on the earth.  This is a boast for they have a Bible that accuses everybody of hating God’s ways (Romans 3) and people of being experts at looking as if they are true disciples of the God they loathe. They all agree that loving God and believing what he has revealed is so unnatural to us because we were born fallen beings as a result of the rebellion of Adam and Eve that God has to give us his grace, that is his supernatural help, so that we might please him.  Clearly then we should not be too surprised if we find the whole world is apostate from divine truth.  The Bible says that Christians will corrupt and apostatise from the true faith of Jesus - if it doesn't say all will do this then it certainly says most will!  That alone should disturb the Churches. 

 

THE CASE AGAINST COMPLETE APOSTASY

THE CASE FOR FULL APOSTASY

REVELATION AND APOSTASY

CONCLUSION

 

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THE CASE AGAINST COMPLETE APOSTASY

 

Let us look at the verses in the Bible that are supposed to justify the Christian boast that the true faith will always be preserved by God on the earth.

 

Matthew 16:18, Jesus says that he will build his Church and the jaws of death will never triumph over it.  According to some this merely says that the gates of Hell will never destroy the true Church so God will keep some Christians in enough truth to bring them to salvation.  (This can be achieved without conferring infallibility – the Catholic Church uses verses like this to claim to be infallible.)  The Roman Church says that the Church on earth and the Church in Heaven and Purgatory are one and the same Church.  We reason then that even if the Church fails on earth that does not mean that the Lord has failed for he still has the Church elsewhere.  Jesus never clearly said he meant his Church on earth would never fail.  Catholics may answer that he told Peter he would build his Church on him meaning the earthly Church for the heavenly one existed then among the angels.  Peter being the rock the Church was built on does not necessarily mean that he would have to be the head of the Church or that he would live up to this role.  At that time, Peter was the first proper Christian.  There were no saints in Heaven yet.  There was no Catholic Church in Heaven or Purgatory for Jesus hadn't made saints yet.   He hadn't cleaned the human race, living or dead, yet of their sin - except Peter - and formed them into the Church.   Peter was the first member of the Church.  So if Jesus said he was building his Church on Peter he was saying only that the Church now exists but not that it will necessarily always be on earth. 

 

Jesus could still have meant that he would extend his Church to earth and build it on earth and that the Church would never be destroyed which would not necessarily mean the earth branch would be preserved forever for it is all the one Church.  Some say that the true Church never fails but that men fail the true Church and let it die.  This is agreeable with what Jesus said. 

 

God could let the true Church on earth die for a good purpose for his ways are odd like how he waited until human beings were on the planet millions of years before establishing the true Church.  This would not contradict the promise of Christ for this is not Hell overcoming the Church for it is God’s will.  Perhaps he will just take it from the world because of the disobedience of believers.

 

The Catholic Church says that in Matthew 16 Jesus said that the gates of Hell would never prevail against his Church that Peter was the rock of.  Some say that it means just the Church that Peter was the rock of that it would not be destroyed but once he would die or fail to be the rock through neglect it would have no rock and the promise would not apply then.  It would be conditional on Peter's obedience.  Some say Matthew 16 means that the Church that teaches the truth will never be taken from the earth and overcome by evil.  Some say it means that that the Church does not fail but men fall away.  In that case, the gates of Hell did not prevail against the Church but evil and stupid men did.  Some say it means that enough truth would always be taught to enable some to become true Christians.  This view would say that when the Roman Catholic Church taught paganism there would be some who would misunderstand it and come to the pure truth accidentally but would have been helped on the way by the Catholic doctrines that were right. 

 

Jesus, as the Mormon Church has pointed out, says nothing at all about the Church built on the rock as being a Church on earth.  The Mormons believe that Jesus when he said that the gates of Hell would never overcome his Church meant that even if the Church ceased to exist on earth it would exist in Heaven.  Catholics assume that Jesus meant the Church would always exist on earth and be built on the rock of Peter and the papacy.  Mormons say that Jesus spoke of the gates of Hell fighting his Church which means he was thinking primarily of the Church in the spirit world for Hell was part of the Spirit world.  They say that Satan need not necessarily approve of every human effort to destroy the Church.  They say there is no need to believe he is behind all such activity.  They say Jesus mentioned only Hell fighting the Church and not people which implies he was not primarily thinking of the Church on earth.  If so, then Peter was not the earthly rock that the Church was built on.  Jesus talks about giving Peter the keys of the kingdom of Heaven - again seemingly thinking of the spirit world.  The idea of Peter being pope in the spirit world is ridiculous. 

 

 

 

Many considering the Roman Catholic claim to be the true Church of Christ that hell would never get the better of, would say that since the vast majority of Christians are outside the Catholic Church that the Roman Church cannot be this Church at all.  The real Roman Catholic Church is actually tiny.  The Catholic Church holds that all who are baptised belong to the Catholic Church despite their membership of different denominations.  So they were made Catholics but didn’t know it.  It follows then that the Catholic Church is full of splits and schisms.  That does seem to be a great triumph for hell.  It gets worse when you realise that people professing to be Catholics doesn’t actually make them Catholics.  The Church holds that any Catholic who knows what the Church teaches and refuses to accept it is ceasing to be a Catholic.  Canon Law decrees automatic excommunication for such.  The vast majority of Catholics these days have no regard for Church teaching authority.  Polls depress the Church showing how many refuse to believe that the bread and wine of the Eucharist become the body and blood of Jesus Christ and scoff at other Catholic doctrines such as papal infallibility or the divinity of Jesus Christ.  So it follows that only a small number of people can properly be called Roman Catholic.  If the small number isn’t a triumph for hell then what is?  If there is no true Church on the earth at all that isn’t very different from there being a tiny true Church, 

 

If you believe that sincere people are members of the Church of Christ without knowing it you could still hold that all the professing Christian Churches are apostate.  If Jesus meant a spiritual Church or invisible Church and that this was the Church over which hell would never triumph as virtually all Protestant theologians contend then the verse doesn’t refute universal apostasy.

 

Matthew 16 is the only place in the Bible that really seems to predict that complete apostasy from the faith will never happen.  It doesn’t so the idea that Christians would leave the faith as a whole is compatible with the Bible.

 

Matthew 28:20, Jesus tells the apostles that he will be with them until the end of the world.  But it can be translated as end of the age.  End of the age does not mean end of the world but the end of the Christian age.  And Jesus can be with the world and guide it without there being a true Church.  Rome says that Protestants are in a false Church but Jesus is still with them.  Jesus may be in the world trying to guide the world but there is no hint that anybody will listen.  The verse implies that if apostasy happens, it happens because people resist the inspirations of God that seek to spur them on to receive God's truth.

 

Philippians 1:6 has Paul the apostle declaring that he is sure that Jesus who has begun good works in his people will perfect them until he comes in the Day of the Lord.  This verse does not eliminate the view that people will stop letting Jesus perfect them.  It only promises that the perfecting power is there for those who will co-operate and will be there forever until the coming of Christ. 

 

John 14:16,17,26.  Jesus tells the apostles that they will be led into all truth and be reminded of all Jesus’ teaching.  The Church says that because the apostles didn’t develop all Jesus’ teaching that the Church had to come after them and complete the job that this is promising that the Church will grow in truth not error.  But we know so little about the apostles.  Perhaps they knew loftier things that they didn’t teach for the world wasn’t ready.  And perhaps the promise was for them alone that on earth and in Heaven they would see the truth in full.  It may have nothing to do with the broader Church.  It would say if it did.  The Catholic Church does not have all truth for there are many things that theologians are at loggerheads over.  How could the Catholic Church remember everything that Jesus said as the last verse promises?  The Church says that Jesus’ promise must be fulfilled in her tradition for the gospels say they only report some of Jesus’ teaching and statements which is not true.  The fact that no tradition is reliable or can be traced back to Jesus proves that he didn’t promise that if he was God.

 

Jesus is saying that the scriptures have all the truth you need.  He could have been promising the apostles the power to write scripture or to give divinely inspired teachings which will become scripture.  This is the sensible interpretation for the New Testament is the closest we can get to the apostles and anything else is too far off to be trusted.

 

He is not telling the Catholic Church that he will help her remember what he did for she was not around to see what he did.

 

If Jesus meant that the apostles and their successors would enjoy protection against error then he would have mentioned those who would succeed them.  Infallibility would have to be superior to the Bible and to tradition for it interprets and judges them.  It is unthinkable that Jesus would have passed over such an important charism – unless the Church is lying and there is no such charism.

 

Jesus never said that the councils of the Church were beyond error.  If he had he would have laid down conditions for this infallibility to take effect.

 

The idea that Jesus is promising infallibility in the production of new scripture is the most likely meaning for Jesus never said that there would be a Church that could not err but it stands to reason that additions to the Jewish Bible were required. 

 

When Jesus promised to use the spirit of God to make the apostles remember he must have been a fraud for that should not be necessary – there was pen and paper in those days - and so he was promising an unreasonable miracle.  If God does daft miracles who knows what he is up to?  The Church could not have picked a worse text to make her excuse for claiming to be inerrant.

 

At the end of Matthew’s gospel when Jesus told the apostles to teach all nations he meant through producing scripture for word of mouth is unsafer.  That was how they could literally teach all nations.  By implication, the Church had to distribute their new Bible for they could not be everywhere.  Yet some Catholics saw evidence of the infallibility doctrine in that episode!  If they were right then only the apostles had the kind of infallibility that the Roman cult boasts that it has.

 

Jude 3 says that the faith is delivered once and for all to the saints but there is no reason to believe that he was thinking of future Christians as well.  He means the apostles delivered it once and for all which remains true if the Church left the faith after it got rid of the apostles.  He instructed the Christians to contend for this faith showing that its future depended on them.  Jude 3 is always taken by Christians as proof that the faith would never disappear completely.  God could intend to deliver the faith once and for all and it could be lost and then found again.  If Jude 3 were thinking of the future it would only mean that the means of restoring the faith would always exist.

 

1 Timothy 3:15.  The Church is called the pillar and ground of the truth.  Surely, Rome knows that the Church can be this without being infallible say when it teaches an infallible book or something.  Also the definite articles are missing.  So Paul did not write about THE Church being THE pillar of the truth but Church being pillar of truth.  He means the Church in the region he was writing to not the general and entire Church.  In Corinth it was not much of a pillar of truth with heretics and liberals running it.  It could be too that the Church was only infallible in producing the Bible so that the Bible could be the infallible authority and when it teaches the Bible it is pillar of truth.  The Catholic Church is not using its infallibility now for it is not having an ecumenical council or an ex-cathedra papal statement made which makes us see the point clearly for it is using the past infallible statements so it could use an infallible Bible instead of these statements if that was the way God decreed.

 

The Church knows fine well that her interpretation of the texts is unwarranted for it is only necessary to skim over them to see that this is so.

 

Her apologists reply that by themselves they don’t look like much but when one considers them in the light of the fact that an infallible interpreter is needed they must mean the Church.  But this is the fallacy that since Jesus needed one he commanded one.  Perhaps he did not know he needed one.

 

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THE CASE FOR FULL APOSTASY

 

The Bible certainly says that most of the Church will leave the faith and create a fake Church.  And it also says that after this everybody else with throw in their lot with the apostates as well. 

 

Ezekiel 7:26 speaks of a time when prophetic visions will be desired and when the law will perish from the priest meaning that the priest ignores it.  Context in verse 21 shows the prophecy has not been fulfilled.  It says the wicked of the earth will take the spoil of Israel.  This never happened.  Christians will have to believe the time for this is yet to come.  It speaks of apostasy.

 

Amos 8:11,12 has God saying that he will send a famine on the land, not a famine of food but of hearing the word of God and that the people will be scattered and search all over the world for the word of God and not find it.  Catholics say these verses simply say that because Israel at the time was disobedient God was making this vow to them.  But it predicts complete apostasy and the way it starts off saying that these days will come.  Both these show that it cannot be proved to refer to Amos generation.  The Jews were never accused of apostasy before the time of Christ.  It is saying that one day that truth will be so corrupted than even the Jews won’t be able to get any of it.  It predicts complete apostasy for the world.

 

Micah 3 also predicts that nobody will get an answer from God one day.  It refers to the prophets of those days who were leading the people astray but can be read as referring to all the false prophets throughout all time as well.  The prophets who will cover their lips for shame for God is not speaking to them and they have no way of hearing from him meaning there are no true prophets are in the future.  This could only be fulfilled after the time of Jesus Christ.

 

Isaiah 24:5-9 says that the people of the earth have changed the ordinances of God which means a change of religion.  God strikes the earth with a curse for all have gone astray and the curse devours the earth and punishes the world with fire leaving only a few left.  Those that are left are said to have no joy.  The true faith gives joy so they don’t have it or anything like it.  This section predicts total apostasy. 

 

Jesus told his twelve apostles in Matthew 10 that they will be persecuted for believing in and serving him in the future and that all will hate them.

 

Paul said that in the last days, people would depart from the faith and obey the doctrines of devils.  This is a prediction of a huge apostasy worse than any other for Christians have always been corrupting the faith.  The last days refers to the whole period after Christ for John said that the people living in the first century were living in the last days (1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Timothy 3; 2 Peter 3).  Apostasy would start as soon as Paul dies (Acts 20).  Catholics would say that this refers to the small bands of heretics who left the Church during the early years.  But the epistles mention that Paul had extremely serious problems with heretics before he died so when Paul warned the people about what would happen after he died even though apostasy was common before it he must have had a huge and terrible and unimaginable apostasy in mind.  It must have been unique when it was spoken of as if it was worse than the apostasy that was taking place when he was speaking.

 

There can be no doubt that since apostasy is something that happens all the time in every sect and is the scourge of every religion that the big apostasy in Christianity must be massive and involve nearly everybody if not all.  The big apostasy must be worse than any other apostasy for men are not attracted to the gospel message by nature (1 Corinthians 2:14) and because Satan is a master of deception and hates Christianity.  The apostasy is so grave and obviously horrific and must seem to be about to destroy the faith that it is presented as a sign that the second coming of Christ is nigh.  It does warn that most of what is presented as Christianity is not Christianity at all.

 

Acts 20:29-31 has Paul saying that after he dies wolves will arise even within the Christian fold to corrupt the faith and he has warned them about this for three years with tears.  The way Paul teaches this as so urgent and something to be constantly remembered shows that it was to be a very serious apostasy indeed and not far away.  He said this to the Church in Ephesus and some use that to object that this does not infer that the whole Church will be troubled by apostasy but only the Ephesian wing.  But the way he speaks in general terms of the Church of God that Jesus purchased with his blood indicates that he was telling the Ephesians what would happen to the general Church.  He is speaking to the Church as a whole through the Ephesians just like the people can speak of and to his Church as a whole but directly to the people of Mexico.

 

2 Thessalonians 2:3 states that you must let nobody deceive you by any means for the day Christ will come cannot come unless a falling away or apostasy happens first.  Now the letters of Paul, and indeed lots of places in the New Testament, talk about believers who turned away from the faith and started teaching heretical doctrines including such ideas as that the resurrection of Christ was doubtful and that Jesus died and rose again so that we could sin as we wished and so on.  The Church had its apostates from the beginning.  Christians today would have you think that it is saying that some people will try to deceive you into thinking nobody will apostatise.  That makes no sense.  If you take the verse to be referring to complete apostasy then it makes perfect sense.

 

2 Thessalonians 2 speaks of a future apostasy of the Church with no hint that it will involve only some members of the Church and not all.  It says the deceiver the son of perdition will sit in the Temple of God as if he is God.  That means that those who have the true faith will be led astray by having a false teacher who they regard as infallible in their midst.  The temple stands for the Church which is the Temple of God.  It is a clear declaration that the whole Church will leave the faith.  If this is wrong - which it isn't - then most and some of the Church will leave then it follows that the Church will still exist but be smaller.  The loyal remnant would then be the Temple of God.  But Paul says the Devil’s man will sit in this Temple and preside over it.  What he is saying here is that even the holiest Church will go over to the Devil.  The Temple of God will go over to the Devil so that it will be the Temple of God no more.  There is no other Temple of God so the entire faith is apostate.

 

1 Timothy 4 says that the Holy Spirit says that in the latter days some will leave the faith and start listening to Devils.  These doctrines include banning marriage and forbidding to eat meat.  Some say this refers to those who commit these specific heresies.  It describes one part of the apostasy which will take many forms.  It does not imply that the rest will remain true to the faith and that the apostasy will be incomplete.  It does not mean that this apostasy will take place in the distant future for the New Testament considers the whole time between the apostles and the coming of Christ at the end of the world to be the latter days or the last days.  That apostasy and people forbidding marriage and meat eating in the name of Christ was happening in those days.  That was the days the prophecy had in mind.  To say that some will apostatise does not exclude the possibility that all will apostatise later.  The same can apply to 2 Peter 2:1-3.  It warns that false teachers will arise among "yourselves" and lead "many" astray.  That is speaking in the present and near future.  It does not say if there will be a complete apostasy in the future or not.

 

2 Timothy 3 speaks of how men in the last days will have a form of godliness but deny the power of God by the way they teach and live their lives.  2 Timothy 4 tells Timothy to preach the gospel fervently for the time will come when they won’t listen to it.  He gives no hint that he means some and not all so he means all.  

 

The First Epistle of John, an apostle or authorised teacher created by Christ, taught that it was the final hour.  He mentioned that antichrist was to come during the last hour.  He says nothing about him being there yet.  But he said that the proof that it was the last hour was the huge number of antichrists, people who denied that Jesus was the Christ or that he was a real man going about after having left the Church (2:18,19).  This must have been one huge apostasy to make him think it was near the end especially when the Church had been suffering apostates from the beginning.  He was certain that antichrist wasn't far off.  Antichrist means not one who necessarily opposes Christ but one who stands in his place - in other words, one that acts like a Christ without his authority.  The pope claims to be Vicar of Christ (one who stands in the place of Christ and who has his authority to teach and bar people from Heaven and control their salvation) and his priests and bishops claim to be other Christs.  It is uncanny how there is a good match.  If you believe the letter of John was written by God then you have to believe the Roman Catholic Church fulfilled his prophecy.  The idea that apostasy was so great that it had to be the final hour or final time before the end of the world suggests that the apostasy will remain very powerful until the very end.  It means most Christians will be fakes.

 

John writes that the antichrist is the one who denies that Jesus came in the flesh.  The Roman Catholic Church says that the physical body of Jesus was not really his body.  The real body is his substance which is not material at all.  A body that has no parts or appearances is not a body at all.  The Church uses its doctrine of substance being immaterial to "explain" how the priest can turn bread and wine into Jesus's body without anything physically changing.  The Church is the antichrist.

 

Here is another way to put all this: The Roman Church says that the body of Jesus is not what saves us but a spiritual force that it falsely calls a body is.  The bread at communion is turned into Jesus without any physical change taking place.  This means that the real Jesus is not his body but a spiritual entity.  It is this Jesus who saves us and who feeds us at communion.  This matches the teaching of the heretics in the first century who said that Jesus did not come in the flesh.  The First Epistle of John says that these heretics are antichrists.  The Catholic Church is antichrist.  It denies that the physical Jesus saves or is of any importance despite pretending that it believes Jesus came in the flesh.  It pays lip-service to that teaching.  It is only lip-service.  John 6 then should not be taken by the Catholic Church to be saying that Jesus intended to turn bread into his body and drink into his blood.

 

John's same epistle said that because God lives inside true believers they don't need a teacher for God teaches them.  Christianity today depends on academics and priests and theologians and pastors and popes to teach.  That need is a sign of apostasy.  It is a sign that the Church prefers what men say to what God says.  If Peter was the rock the Church was built on, then later on he was not the only one.  The papacy is a sign of apostasy for it claims to exist for the sake of teaching the people.

 

There is no Bible text that says there will be any believers on earth when Jesus comes.  The First Letter of Paul to the Thessalonians chapter 4 says that the dead will rise first when Jesus returns and the living will be caught up to him.  This can be taken as hypothetical and Paul uses "we" to describe the living believers which appears to support this.  Paul was hypothesising what form the coming would take if it happened in his lifetime.  Some say it does not contradict the view that there will be a total apostasy and that there will be true believers at the time Jesus returns.

 

The Bible says that a huge apostasy will occur.  It must mean a huge apostasy of the vast majority for apostasy has been happening since the start.  So the one it refers to is an extremely bad one.  Perhaps a complete one.  The complete apostasy idea is what fits the Bible the best and is explicitly taught.

 

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JESUS PREDICTED APOSTASY

 

When the Catholic Church is so big and Churches like the Orthodox Churches of the east and many forms of Anglicanism are Catholic and the Bible says we must expect Jesus back anytime that is a warning bell because the Bible tells us that a huge apostasy must happen before Christ can return. Jesus said that we must be ready at all times for the Son of Man will return when we least expect it.  These Churches because of their immense size must be apostate.

 

Roman Catholicism is not apostolic or built on the foundation of the apostles but is apostate.  Any religion that claims to be apostolic condemns itself just by making that claim because it can’t be built on the apostles but on what people have said the apostles taught.  The difference is huge. 

 

Jesus once wondered if there would be any faith on earth when he came back.

 

Jesus told the Jews that if he alone says he is the Son of God and the mouthpiece of God his testimony is invalid so he cited John the Baptist's testimony.  Jesus says he cites it not that he accepts human testimony but that the people may be saved (John 5:31-33).  He didn't regard his own disciples who supposedly witnessed his miracles as any good for providing testimony.  That is significant.  And it is dishonest to say, "This testimony is human and its no good but I will quote it anyway to save you."  Mercenary! Anyway Jesus was asserting that real followers were nearly impossible to come by!  He even said that the Jews did not have the love of God in them!  That is very strong!  We would expect him to say that they didn't have much love for God in them but he says they didn't love God at all!  

 

Matthew says that a man asked Jesus to tell him the way to eternal life.  The man called him good teacher.  Matthew says Jesus retorted, "Why do you ask me about what is good?  Only God is good!"  Jesus meant that there would be a very very powerful tendency in humankind to distort God and God's ways.  He was stern.  The Churches say he didn't like the man calling him good because it implied that he was just a man who really cares and can teach what is good in spiritual affairs.  They say he was being approached as good in the human sense and he didn't like that.  They say he wanted to be called not good in the way a man can be good but good in the way God is good.  The alternative is to say that Jesus denied he was good and so that he was God - the Churches of course reject that interpretation.  If Jesus didn't like being called good in the human sense, he must expect us to hate being called good or thought good or relied on as an authority for knowing what good is.  If he couldn't stand it and he was the Son of God, then we who are not like him should find it even more intolerable than he did!  If the Church interpretation was right, then Jesus was indicating that it is dangerous to treat any man as an authority on God or God's ways.  He was saying grave apostasy would be inevitable and most would go for it.  Of course the Church ignores the logical conclusion of its interpretation!

 

Jesus said that the way to damnation is wide and the way to salvation is narrow and that many would try to enter the narrow gate and not be able.  You are not really trying to enter if you are bent on rejecting God’s ways so Jesus is saying that you can try and still not get in because you are in the wrong religion.  An all-powerful God could arrange things in such a way that most will have the truth or enough of the truth so God must want most people to be in error.  God could have made all people believe that they have been born Catholics even if they have not been for he is almighty and lets us be deluded anyway.  Thus, he is antichrist and anti-religion.

 

Jesus said in Matthew 12 that if a demon leaves the body of a man and the man stays evil that he will come back with more demons after wandering the earth looking for a place to stay and it is like this with his generation. Clearly there was no scarcity of people fit for possession when the whole generation was evil and in danger of possession.  They must have been very evil indeed.  Jesus talks as if the demons go looking to live in somebody worse and if they find none they go back to the man they left and recommend that other demons join them so the man ends up worse than at the beginning.  So Jesus is saying the evil will get worse and worse and worse.  When the Jewish leaders said he was casting out demons by the power of the prince of devils Jesus replied that if the prince does that his kingdom will fall down.  So Satan needs to possess to have a kingdom and the Bible describes him as king of the world and the god of this world.  So he must possess most people. 

 

Demons have the destruction of the truth brought by Jesus as their supreme goal therefore Christianity would be apostate with only a handful of true believers if any.  Demons have no need to dwell inside anybody for tempting is enough unless they are planning supernatural fraud and to make the person see false visions and to give the person delusional experiences of God.  Not many visions are reported so the latter is what they are up to. 

 

The Catholic claim that Protestantism is a hoax for it was not known before the Reformation would prove nothing even if it were correct for Jesus could preserve enough truth so that some could get saved by faith alone by accident.

 

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REVELATION AND APOSTASY

 

The Bible says that most of the Church will leave the faith and create a fake Church.  The Book of Revelation is clearest on this. 

 

Revelation 1:7 says ALL the tribes of the earth will grieve when Jesus returns.  Obviously he is not too welcome!  Jesus said the same thing in Matthew 24:3, 30.  Revelation speaks of Jesus having seven stars which it explains are the seven churches.  These stars are in his right hand meaning these Churches despite the scathing criticism he has for them are precious to him.  Jerusalem and Rome are excluded from the list of Churches as if they were already considered apostate and given over to Satan.  Revelation uses the number seven to signify completeness and perfection.  All scholars agree with this. 

 

Some think that the seven churches is just a device that means whole Church though only seven places where the Church was were mentioned.  But that is stretching the symbolism too far.  If that was all the book meant then why name the Churches?  Why did Jesus tell the author to send a different letter to each Church?  Some believers will say that the author choosing some centres and not others proves nothing.  The author selected those centres and did it in such a way as to make up seven centres.  Each centre had a letter to promote.  His selection proves that these places were thought to have the correct Christian doctrine and to be part of the true Church.  Far from thinking that Peter who reigned over the Church in Jerusalem was a pope, far from thinking that Peter went to Rome to rule the whole Church as pope, Revelation indicates that the Church in Jerusalem and Rome was apostate.

 

Two prophets are described as being slain in Jerusalem "where their Lord was crucified" in Revelation 11.  Revelation says they have the power to strike the earth with any torment or plague they wish.  They destroy their enemies by doing miracles.  But after they have given their message from God, the beast of the abyss will come and kill them.  Their bodies will lie in Jerusalem and be viewed by every tribe on earth for three days and a half.  They are refused burial.   Then the prophets rise from the dead at the end of the three and a half days in the sight of their enemies and ascend to heaven on a cloud.  It is plainly said the whole earth rejoiced and exchanged gifts in celebration of their death for the prophets TORTURED everybody on earth (Revelation 11:10).  The hatred roused against them shows that attempts to say they harassed rather than tortured are dubious.  Some translations try to soften the fact that the prophets were very cruel and vicious.  The Christian God is essentially vindictive.  God is described as having begun to reign after the prophets give their message and die and go to Heaven (11:17).  This implies that apostasy was rife.  He barely had a Church when the prophets lived.

 

 None of this has happened    It shows that only two people will belong to God or speak for God during the time of darkness and apostasy.  So the prophets have to teach not the pope.  The prophecy exposes the Catholic lie that the papacy will never pass away until the end of the world and will never lead the Church into apostasy.

 

The New American Bible Catholic Edition surmises that the two prophets were Peter and Paul.  But it was never claimed that their bodies were displayed anywhere let alone in Jerusalem or that they rose from the dead and ascended into Heaven.  Also, they were not the only prophets. And Paul did not die in Jerusalem but Rome.  Peter was more low-key than Paul so why would Peter be singled out for mention?  And how could Christians be expected to believe that there were only two real apostles or prophets then?  What about the others?  What about the author of Revelation the contemporary of Peter and Paul who claimed to be a prophet? 

 

Revelation 6:14 speaks of the heavens rolling up like a scroll and vanishing and all the islands and mountains being moved around.  This happened as a result of Jesus the Lamb opening the sixth seal causing the sun to become black and the moon to look like blood.  We read that all the kings of earth hid as a result.  It says all those who had power and authority did the same - meaning those who had religious power as well.  That would include the pope.  Revelation uses much symbolism.  The heavens and the mountains are Old Testament images representing godless religious powers (Isaiah 34:4 and Nahum 1:5).  If we read Isaiah 34:4, 5 which inspires the symbolism we read how the heavens are scrolled up and then when God's sword has drunk its fill in the Heavens it will descend in judgement.  So the heavens are scrolled up - this must be the heavens where God dwells meaning there is no way in there anymore and the word of God is not taught and only apostasy is taught.  In Revelation, the sun becoming black refers to the word of God being covered up so that there is no religious light in the world.

 

Revelation speaks of a world superpower headquartered by Rome that does magic and bewitches the world with charm and beauty called the Whore of Babylon.  No hint is given that the whore is a commercial operation or a political one though it is involved in selling and buying and politics.  It is a religious organisation because whore is what the Bible calls a group of Christians who depart the faith and became fake Christians.  Strictly speaking the Bible calls the Whore the Harlot not the Whore but Whore of Babylon is a popular term.  Harlot means temple prostitute who sells her body for religious reasons.  The harlot is a religion.  Revelation says its prophecies will start coming true soon and the harlot will rule before Jesus returns.  Since the Bible is clear that we must be ready all the time for Jesus coming back and expect him any time we have to assume the Roman Church is the harlot or at least all false religions are the harlot and Rome is using occult power to empower them in her struggle against God.  But it is more natural that when Revelation refers to the harlot who works from Rome and her harlot daughters that the harlot in Rome is one religion.

 

Roman Catholicism refers to herself as her and she and mother Church.  Pagan Rome never used the feminine symbolism.  Roman Catholicism is the harlot.

 

Pagan Rome forced itself on the kings of the ancient world.  Catholic Rome presented herself to the kings and the kings came to her.  This matches the statement of Revelation that the harlot prostituted herself with the kings of the world.  The kings were her clients. 

The Catholic teaching that Jesus is fully in all the wafer makes it fully plain that people can believe that Jesus' penis is in their mouths when they receive communion.  The Eucharist can be described as being Jesus' penis.  This is religious style sex abuse.  Pagan Rome never used temple prostitutes or perverse erotic rites.  No wonder Revelation uses the sexual and religious connotations of a harlot to describe Catholic Rome.

The whore works with the great beast her god who forces the whole world to worship a false god and kills anybody that doesn't.  The number of the beast is 666.  This is usually thought to refer to the Roman Emperor Nero.  Let's suppose that.  If its Nero then it is not Nero as he was back then.  Nero committed suicide by cutting his own throat but we read that the beast has this wound healed so this is resurrected Nero we have.  This is a Nero with tremendous occult powers (Revelation 13:14).  For a Christian, it predicts the return of Nero and his becoming pope.  Satan had a throne and gave it to this resurrected Nero (Revelation 13:2).   This throne must be in Rome meaning the papal throne.  Revelation 14:12 says the saints are sustained and comforted in Heaven by the thought that the worshippers of the beast will suffer great torment in a pool of sulphur.  The book indicates that it is a duty to hate the whore and the beast.  Revelation 18:6 quotes a voice from Heaven commanding that the whore be paid back double for all the evil she ever did.

 

Page 37 of The Book of Revelation for Dummies rejects the idea that the 666 is about Nero.  The reasons it says this is because the book was designed for a non-Jewish audience so Revelation translating Nero Caesar's name into Hebrew to add the letters to come up with 666 doesn't seem plausible.  But on page 218 we read that non-Jews did know the system.  Also Revelation depends heavily on Old Testament prophecy and the Jewish scriptures.  It uses Hebrew devices despite being written for non-Hebrews.  Another problem is how you have to change the usual spelling of Caesar to get the 666. 

 

7 in Revelation stands for perfection and so 6 stands for imperfection and fallen from God (page 218, The Book of Revelation for Dummies).  The 6 is next to the 7.  This suggests that the evil may not be very obvious and may even look good.  That is why it is best described as imperfect than evil.  Imperfection is less easy to spot than evil is.  The best evil masquerades as imperfection if it cannot manage to masquerade as good.  The 666 suggests imperfection or defiance of God three times over.  If 6 stands for imperfection and hidden evil then the 666 man or men must stand for imperfection that is three times more subtle and clever.  The papacy has certainly managed to look fairly good despite its evil.  Revelation says that the beast kills all who refuse his name or the number of his name.  The name suggests that we have here a spiritual leader who wants all to accept him and the number of his name being the 666 suggests he wants people to receive evil sacraments from him to become captive to the supernatural power of evil.  This fits the pope and his insidious and superficially innocuous evil better than the Roman Emperor who was evil outright.

 

Incidentally Rome was always stronger and more advanced than Jerusalem as a city which is why Revelation 18:18 proves the falsity of Catholic claims that the whore is Jerusalem.  There we read that the mourners of the destroyed whore were saying no other city could ever have compared with her.  Jerusalem is thought to be meant when the book condemned a city as Sodom or Egypt but at the same time the city is referred to as the beloved city (Revelation 20:9.

 

The Book of Revelation predicts that when the Whore of Babylon controls religion on earth that God’s angel will proclaim the gospel by appearing to everybody on earth who will see him in Heaven (Revelation 14:6).  God does not teach the gospel this way unless he has no friends on earth who would do it.  Jesus said that those who don’t see his miraculous self and believe are more blessed than those who do (John 20:29).

 

Revelation says the whore is drunk on the blood of the saints.  The Roman Catholic Church killed far more Christians than pagan Rome ever did.  The author of Revelation says the whore killed some saints in his day and she will be around until the end of the world.  This indicates that the whore was working on and through the Roman Empire before she developed the papacy and into her fully grown state.  There can be no doubt that Catholicism is accused by the Book of Revelation of being the whore of Babylon for no organisation in Rome will ever have the power that she has.

 

Most Christians take Revelation 20 in a figurative sense.  It says that an angel came down from Heaven and bound Satan for a thousand years so that during that time he would not be able to fool the nations.  Then we read that those who had died for Jesus and had not received the mark of the beast on their foreheads and hands came to life and reigned with Jesus for one thousand years.  The rest of the dead did not come to life until after this time.  Of those who rose first, Revelation says that the second death has no power over them but they shall be priests of God and of Christ.  The second death is being thrown into the pool of burning sulphur (Revelation 21:8).  After this reign Satan is released and deceives the world and gathers the nation for a world war.  After that the last judgement takes place.

 

This chapter stands by itself.

 

Satan was bound but it never says when this binding took place except that it took place after the martyrs died.  Those martyrs who refused to accept the mark of the beast reign with Jesus but we are not told where.  It may mean in Heaven.  But we read that no additions to their number were made in the thousand years.  This implies that apostasy reigned on earth.  God bound Satan up so that the apostasy is simply inexcusable and means that the religions of the world preferred to deceive themselves than to honour the truth.  The dead that rose at the end of the thousand years are not said to be holy.  In fact Satan gets released when they rise and he uses them in his world war.

 

The binding of Satan is traditionally and logically surmised to refer to the truth of God being issued throughout the world.  There being no true Christians on earth while the martyrs reigned would indicate that the Churches were distorting and keeping people away from that truth and away from salvation.

 

The Mark of the Beast indicates some kind of religious ritual that prevents salvation and marks one as damned.  The Roman Church claims to mark people's souls with its sacraments.  Catholic baptism is supposed to mark the soul for all eternity.

 

The Church did kill people for refusing its baptism.  Revelation indicates that rejecting the Mark of the Beast is of supreme importance for it singles this out.

 

 

Read my Church of Antichrist.

 

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CONCLUSION

 

The Bible says Christianity as it came from Christ has vanished from the earth.

 

 

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