MURDEROUS CHRISTIAN DOGMA-MONGERS
Even today the Church puts its seal of approval on publications like Reasons for Hope which say that heresy, disagreeing with the Church leaders in faith or morals, should be a crime (page 198).
Recently, Patrick Madrid's Church approved book, Where is That in the Bible? on page 160 admits that the Inquisition went too far at times but stated that God instituted it. It quotes Deuteronomy 17 with approval . This text commands on God's authority that heretics be stopped by violence from spreading or preaching their errors. There God commands that such evil must be purged from the midst of his people. That is the important point. It means that if the people of God can't use violence today, they have other alternatives. But they must not allow heretics to preach.
Pope Pius XII who died in 1958 knew all about the Jewish Holocaust under the Nazis during the Second World War from the start. He made no effort, despite all the means at his disposal, despite the discreet options open to him, to get this information out to the world so that something might be done. He made no condemnation of the persecution of the Jews. He even stated in writing that he admired Hitler though he knew that Hitler was a rabid anti-Semitist. Pius's Church spewed anti-Jewish sentiment in its official newspapers and continued to publish books and preach sermons against the Jewish people right up to the end of the Second World War. Such publications were an encouragement to Nazi thought and practice. Pius let the world think that what was happening to the Jews was not too bad.
Benedict XVI and his supporters would say that Pius had to be silent or he would make things worse. This does not excuse Pius failure to do anything. This is the Church that says that doing nothing and saying nothing always makes things worse. Denmark was under Nazi rule. Yet the Danish Lutheran Church was able to condemn Nazi anti-Semitism and work to save the Jews. The Church and Danish people managed to save 7,000 Jews. The more powerful Roman Catholic Church in Rome refused to copy the Danish Church's example and in 1943 1,900 Jews were deported to Auschwitz from Rome itself! To say the pope was right to say nothing for it would make this worse is to admit that he knew what was going on and took no action. Catholics have said that he refused to condemn or speak out because the Nazis would turn on the Catholic Church itself. In other words, protecting Catholics loyal to the pope was all that really mattered. They are saying that a real evil, happening in the present matters less than a possible and preventable evil that may never happen. How twisted is that? And besides, if the Nazis started to persecute Catholics the world would have taken action to stop it. The Jews because of Christian slander were not considered to count for much and no Christian country was willing to do much to help them.
Praising the pope for saying nothing and excusing him by saying he didn't wish to risk the Nazis starting on the Church ignores the fact that the Nazis were hoping to eliminate the Jewish race not the Jewish religion as such. Plus Nazi support came from people who identified themselves as Catholics. Even if there was a risk, you don't let people slaughter all they want and say nothing over something they might not do or get the chance to do at all! Perhaps if some persecution of the Church took place, the pope speaking out could still have produced a better outcome than would have been had he said nothing.
The Nazis were supremely confident that no condemnation would come from Rome when they didn't touch Catholic clergy and prelates who would back the pope and condemn them if he did. Interesting. The Holocaust is an example of how Catholicism even if it had no Inquisition to destroy the Jews was happy to condone and use somebody else's.
Matthew 18:1,15-20 has Jesus saying to his disciples, disciples meant any of his followers not just the apostles, that if you have a complaint about a believer and he won’t listen to you bring in members of the Church to do it with you the next time and if he still won’t give in treat him like Gentile or a tax-collector – someone who is shunned and despised by society. Christians distort this to say he only meant just be distant from them to help them learn their lesson but be kind to them otherwise. Then why didn’t he say that? Why did he say Gentiles or tax-collectors who were treated with hatred and contempt? Nobody was kind to them to help them change. They got suspicion and dislike and abuse wherever they went and were regarded as unclean and dirty and not fit to be in the company of God’s people.
Jesus used violence in the Temple to put out those who were buying and selling there.
Jesus gave authority then
for the Church to persecute people who despise any of its “morals” or
beliefs. Anybody who disbelieves any
part of Church teaching is insulting the intelligence of the rest so they can
go to him and persecute him for it. The
purpose of the persecuting was to force.
People who knew they could lose their families if they got on the wrong
side of their God would have no choice but to give in to the Church. Matthew 18 is the reason Jehovah’s Witnesses
are notoriously nasty to members who commit adultery or who consort with
another faith. Any Christian cult that
ignores Matthew 18 is not sincere even if it feels it is for how could it be
sincere and ignore the words of the Son of God?
It is stupid to use the excuse that it would be hard to implement
now. Jesus warned that difficulty was
not excuse for not doing God’s will. All
unpalatable rules are hard at the start.
Jesus tried to use fear
to get converts. He said that
He believed he had the
right to persecute himself and even embrace death on a cross that he knew was
coming. This put faith before his own
life meaning faith comes first and man is made for faith and not faith for
man. This idea has spawned oceans of
bloodshed.
The Manichees
like many heretics before them believed that certain foods should be avoided
and they just took food that was white on the basis that its colour showed it
was full of light, so they thought it was a better energy source. Such food regulations were nearly always bad
science or based on the idea that eating animals was cruel. We still have some bad science around today
that condemns many foods. Yet the Bible
condemns forbidding foods (1 Timothy 4:3).
This clearly suggests that if it can be eaten it should be eaten. It opposes science even when it is correct
about some food being bad.
The Bible does not sanction the convert or die approach unless you were originally a believer in the true religion. The first five books of the Bible give many examples of people who God commanded must be destroyed for their heresy.
Fr Alexius Lepicier was a professor of the College for the Propagation
of the Faith in
St Thomas Aquinas said
the same as Father Brors. He also taught, “Heresy is the most terrible
of all offences. To corrupt the faith is
a far worse crime that to corrupt the coinage.
If the coiner be deemed worthy of death, how
much more the heretic” (page 419, Apologetics for the Pulpit). Ludovico a Paramo wrote a book for the Holy Inquisition in 1398. He said that the Inquisition is right to
persecute and hand over heretics to be killed because heresy is against the
unity of society. The thought seems to
be that since heretics must expect their followers to die for false doctrine
that they must be destroyed.
In Radio Replies,
First Volume, we read, “
We can read what
In Volume Three, we read that it was right for the Church to use the state to execute heretics who had turned against Catholicism for the nations were wholly Catholic and the heretic was a danger to this purity (Question 1024). It approves of Aquinas who gave it this heart-warming thought.
Pope Leo XIII taught that St Thomas filled the entire world with the splendour of his teaching and that he handled every part of philosophy with acuteness and strength in his encyclical Aeterni Patris. This is implicit approval for this man called the Angelic Doctor who urged the Church to have a rabid hatred of heresy and to murder in the name of Christ.
The religionists who try
to evangelise Catholics and get them out of the Church have to be in the same
boat because they know that they are making Catholics sin in listening to them
against their conscience. And so are
those who do not reach Catholics but who would admit Catholics as members into
their systems. They are indirectly
ruining or would ruin the Church.
If Thomas did not say it
should be done then he may have meant that though heretics should be killed we
cannot kill them for it is better to jail them and try to make them sorry. But no doubt there would have been
circumstances like when you can’t jail a heretic who is harming the faith and
who can’t be persuaded to abjure his errors in which Aquinas would have to
agree with killing him. It is like the
modern doctrine that a murderer deserves death but you can only kill him when
you can’t jail him to protect others which sees capital punishment as wrong but
not in extreme circumstances like everything else.
Some argued that when
Jesus gave the Church the right to exercise a coercive jurisdiction (Matthew
18; 2 Thessalonians 3; 1 Corinthians 5; 2 Corinthians 10, Acts 4) that forcing
the faith on ex-Catholics was a duty. 1
Timothy
If the faith is true and
Catholics know it as they claim, then the faith can be forced on people the
same way as a teacher can force the
1+1=2 belief on you.
The Church says that
sincerity is enough for Catholics who are sincerely wrong in their theology but
who mean to be orthodox Catholics and their sincerity will save them. This implies that morality is most
important. When it is okay to force
morality it must be more okay to force the faith on people. The Church says that God wants small
sacrifices from the vast majority of us and so to force somebody away from a
sex-partner or whatever is relatively unimportant – there are more important
things. When people can be forced in
these things why not in things like the faith for it would just be as important
as the sacrifices?
In 1808, when Napoleon
took over Spain, an officer Colonel Lemanouski and is
men smashed their way into a Dominican monastery in Madrid where the monks had
resisted them. They found
torture-chambers there which were cruel and disgusting in the extreme even to
them. Many of the victims of this
Inquisition were dying. They then blew
the monastery up.
Loraine Boettner wrote a book called Roman Catholicism which
devoted Chapter 18 to defend his observation that the Catholic Church is
intolerant, bigoted and persecutes heretics.
It gives several quotes from leading Catholics and Catholic books (eg Catholic Principles of Politics, by John A Ryan
and Francis J Boland, The National Catholic Welfare Conference, published by
The Macmillan Company) that back this up.
He inserted a quote from Monsignor Francis J Connell, the top
theological expert in
It is well known that the
Catholic Church had many tortured to death for heresy and witchcraft in the
past. The New Catholic Encyclopedia in its entry for Capital Punishment states
that the state has the right under God to put certain criminals to death.
In recent times, there
has been a Satanist scare. Millions of
religionists believed that the Satanists were abusing and sacrificing babies
all over the place.
This was not the first
time religion caused such hysteria.
Christian theology
maintained that the Devil was the chief angel in Heaven before God chucked him
out. It was believed that he retained
the incredible powers his former role bestowed on him now that he was fallen
and that he could help those who sold their bodies and souls to him to work
great marvels in return for their sacrifices of sin.
Pope Gregory IX was the
main force behind the revival in the belief that there were witches with
awesome powers. They could ruin crops,
or kill, or even turn into animals and fly through the air with the aid of the Devil. In 1231, he originated the Inquisition which
was meant to eradicate witchcraft and heresy.
A long-lasting orgy of violence and murder ensued.
Two Dominican monks,
Heinrich Kramer and James Sprenger wrote a book
called The Hammer of Witches in 1486.
It even clamed that witches could have babies by the Devil who employs
artificial insemination! The book
prescribed torture to make witches confess.
The book called for their extermination.
Incidentally, in an age approving of capital punishment one could only
expect that people who were in league with the Devil and willing servants of
his and having his power should be put to death. This book was granted official Church
approval. Not surprisingly, since St
Thomas Aquinas declared it heresy to assert that true witches did not have the
power to change nature magically. The
authors of the Hammer had been appointed by the infamous Witches Bull of 1484
which was written by Innocent VIII to extirpate witches and preach against
them.
The Bible says that we
must not suffer a sorceress or a witch to live (Exodus
The Bible also forbids the toleration of anybody who
promotes the worship of other Gods. It
commands their execution.
Back to the first
declaration. A sorceress need not
promote her faith so it is not that the law is worried about. The sorceress must be killed because she does
spells. This seems senseless if she is a
solitary witch so we can take it that the good book is saying that she has
magical powers to do harm with them which justifies ending her life.
People would reason that
if she or he has not started killing people by black magic she soon will and
that justifies putting her on top of a bonfire.
Even if we are not sure
of the import of the verse we have to slay witches to be on the safe side.
Never does the Bible says that powers of witchcraft are
delusion. It never says that mediumistic
powers are delusions. The witch of Endor made Samuel’s ghost appear to King Saul. There is no evidence in the story that it was
not the witch that did it but God alone.
The story therefore says that mediums can make the dead speak.
The magicians Moses had
to reckon with could transmute things with their magical arts. There is no hint that God gave the magicians
the powers to show that Moses was stronger.
The matter of fact way it was reported suggests that they always had
those powers.
In Ezekiel 13, God
condemns the wearing of magic bands. He
does not say in this book that magic is a delusion so that proves that he meant
that the magic is real. If a books
speaks of thanking God and does not say that this isn’t meant seriously then
the book is saying that God really exists.
When the Bible speaks of soothsayers
predicting lies it does not say that they are making it all up. Their powers could be deluding them.
What if we see no
evidence for such miraculous powers today?
The answer would be that the Devil is obsessed with secrecy and will not
let such powers be proven except to the person who has them. He might show off with a possessed person but
a possessed person is not necessarily a disciple of his. He might even let a disciple show off his
magic in an attempt to refute God’s miracles.
The stories of possession
in the Bible tell us that the Devil is very powerful. The Whore of the Book of Revelation who will
be on earth before the return of Jesus has great magical powers. The Book of Revelation says that magic exists
and it is real. Since Jesus told us we
would not know when he would show up this forces Christians to believe that the
world is in the grip of witches and black magic for he said that they would be
epidemic before his second advent. All
this tells us to kill witches. Their
main concern would be to do magic to make a person sin and then kill her or him
so that he or she goes to Hell forever.
They would do it subtly and wouldn’t want to make it too obvious. Proof that a witch has killed by her black
arts is not necessary.
The miracles of the Bible
are largely pointless. God should have
done one big sign. So if God does
senseless miracles then he lets the Devil work evil ones too. It would then be more likely that when a
person testifies to a miracle that it has happened. If a person says he saw a witch taking off on
her broomstick we would be obliged to believe it. The miracles imply that witchcraft is real
and should be believed to be real. They imply
that we should never have stopped torturing people and burning them at the
stake for sorcery. The fact that the Old
Testament did not need to command the destruction of witches and still did it
proves that God regards such killings as intrinsically good. Even if Jesus abolished the capital
punishment law for an adulteress in the dubious addition to John’s gospel –
which he did not if you read it right - that does not mean that he wanted
witches to be permitted to live.
Adultery breaks the way God wants society to be ordered but religious
crimes are in a completely different category.
Finally, the witches like
the witches of today bake cakes to worship their goddess the Queen of
Heaven. The Bible says that this worship
is forbidden (Jeremiah
The Catholic Church tends
to play down the evil of the Inquisition which was set up by her to destroy
anybody who differed from her. You will
read in books like Apologetics for the Pulpit that
it was not the fault of the Inquisition which was a legitimate arm of the
Church that the secular powers went too far in killing heretics for the Church
(page 431). But the fact is that
excommunication in those days made you a complete outcast and if you were an
excommunicated king you had no authority so the Church could have used
excommunication to deter Inquisitors from going too far. And besides the Church was not forced to hand
heretics over to the state for punishment.
The state would not have been so keen to destroy heretics had it not
been for the Church teaching that the heretic was a powerful instrument of the
Devil and had to be destroyed for to destroy him was to weaken the Devil and
destroy his plan. They knew fine well
that there were plenty of harmless heretics and a large chunk of the population
was made up of closeted heretics and no harm had come. It is a fact that no pope for centuries
condemned the view that heretics have no rights while the Inquisition was in
force (page 227, Vicars of Christ).
They encouraged the Inquisition by their silence.
The Fourth Lateran
Council which took place in 1215 AD in Rome, stated that all who disagree with
the Catholic Church in any way are heretics and all heretics are as bad as each
other and their goods must all be taken from them and if they are priests or
princes they must lose their authority and it shall be taken from them and
heretics have no right to testify legally and they must be rooted out and
excommunicated (page 287, Fifty Years in the “Church” of Rome). The Council offered a plenary indulgence to
Catholics who took it on themselves to exterminate heretics. They were granted the same spiritual benefits
as those who fought in the Crusades.
(The decree can be read in the book, Documents of the Christian
Church, pages 132-133.)
The Catholic doctrine
that even an apparition of Jesus or the Virgin Mary must be ignored if it
commands what is contrary to the will of the Church or the parish priest or
bishop or anybody in authority in the Church obviously shows that the Church is
claiming a monopoly on the right to tell people what they should believe. If the Church commands the slaughter of
heretics even Jesus is forbidden to say nothing against her. So the Church is not so worried about the
will of God after all! Well that is
assuming God has any kindness in him at all.
Today, the Church says
that to be a heretic in those times was to be willing to take up arms against
the innocent members of the Church and to kill them was right. But Lateran 4 never says that. It tars all heretics with the same
brush. Most heretics are not murderous
or traitors. The Church is lying to
cover up the evil of the past. To do
that dishonours the murdered heretics intensely and shows how much hate festers
inside the façade that is Roman Catholicism.
Pope Boniface VIII stated
that the Church should hand heretics over to the secular powers even when it
knows that its request that they will not be executed will not be fulfilled
(page 72, Crisis of Moral Authority, Don Cupitt,
SCM Press, London, 1985). The Church even granted an indulgence to
those who gave wood to the executioners to burn heretics (page 242, A
Handbook on the Papacy).
Strictly speaking, there
were five different Inquisitions. The
first one was created by bishops in 1184.
Innocent III set up the legatine Inquisition which was supervised for
him by the Cistercians in 1198. Gregory
IX established the monastic one in 1231 which was operated by the Dominican
order. Paul III founded the Roman
Inquisition in 1542. The worst one was
the Spanish Inquisition which started in 1478.
It was the arm of the state for destroying Jews and Moors who faked
conversions to Roman Catholicism. It was
driven by the knowledge that if the enemies pretend to be friends they can do
the faith a great deal of damage. In
1480, Pope Sixtus IV approved the Inquisition in
Juan Antonio Llorente worked for the Inquisition gave the world the
evidence that the Inquisition murdered millions. 105,285 victims were killed by the Inquisitor
Torquemada alone.
Llorente was accused of embezzlement but it is
wrong to say that that has anything to do with his reliability as a
historian. Anyway, the accusation was
not proven. The documents he had
consulted were burned by him. This is
held by Roman Catholics like Karl Keating (Catholicism and Fundamentalism,
page 292) to cast doubt on his reliability.
But these documents were stolen and he had to destroy the evidence for
the Church that would come after him. He
knew that the Church could not get him arrested and jailed if he got rid of the
documents for then she would have to make other documents that proved the
information in his books was right and came from purloined papers in order to
establish his guilt.
Keating tells us that
according to some Catholic scholars the Inquisition only killed about 4000
people all the time was extant (Catholicism and Fundamentalism, page
296).
It does not really help
the Church if the numbers murdered were low for it was still evil and
intolerant for her to kill them and shows what he would like to do to heretics.
But many Catholic
scholars who know a thing or two believe that the horrific and unbelievable
account of the Inquisition put together by Henry Charles Lea who many Catholics
disparage is the truth. Lord Acton
endorsed it and he was hard to please (page 637, Vicars of Christ).
The accused would never
have been sure about what he was supposed to have done for he was never fully
informed (Difficulties, page
14). The Inquisition hypocritically
forbade anybody from being tortured more than once but allowed the torture to
go on indefinitely. We know that “a
The Inquisitor, Bernard Gui, said that even the testimony of a notorious perjurer
against a person should be accepted and the names of the witnesses were never
disclosed to the accused (Difficulties, page 36). In Difficulties it will be seen that
the Catholic Fr Knox does not really make an answer to any of that. He tries to claim that the papal protests
against the Inquisition were ineffective not because the pope didn’t want them
to work but because it is sometimes hard for even the pope to influence the
Church. He says that
In The Inquisition and
Liberty (page 125) we learned that hardly anybody who was accused by the
Inquisition was acquitted. If the popes
were really that good there would have been plenty especially in the early
days. Gregory IX made the fanatical
murderer Conrad of
The prisons were terrible
beyond belief (Handbook on the Papacy, page 237). And how can the likes of Knox try to say that
the popes sincerely meant their denunciations of the cruelty of the Inquisition
when the pope had the money and power and influence to ensure that the
prisoners had some comforts?
The Franciscan monk,
Bernard Delicieux, who tried to stop the inhumanity
of the Inquisition became its victim thanks to the pope just for saying the
system was unchristian (Handbook on the Papacy, page 238).
Most people would have
seen the Inquisition for what it really was and would have inwardly frowned on
its speciality, forcing people to confess under torture to things they never
did. They could have torn it down but
did nothing because they believed the pope who said that all this was
right. The papacy is certainly mainly to
blame for the excesses of the Inquisition.
The Roman Inquisition in
Catholics often try to
blame the evil of the Church on the barbaric climate of the times. That is offensive to us for even the blind
can see that the things she did were wrong as the Protestant Hubmaier wrote in 1524 (Vicars of Christ, page 247).
Torquemada and the Inquisitors by John Edwards tells us a lot
of interesting things about the Inquisition.
Muslims in
CONCLUSION
Roman Catholicism is the most murderous religion in history. Its thirst for blood was sanctioned in its holiest decrees and when it killed once it can do it again.
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