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GOD’S WORD REFUTES THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS

 

APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION

 

Rome says that Jesus ordained his apostles as the first bishops.  They ordained others who ordained others and so on right up until the present day.  Only a bishop can ordain bishops, priests or deacons.  If a layperson or a priest tries it, the ordination won’t work and so the “ordained” person will not be real bishop, priest or deacon at all.  The power to ordain deacons, priests and bishops was inherited from the apostles.  It gives the magical power to celebrate valid sacraments.  The Catholic Church has priests who supposedly share in the priesthood of Jesus Christ and offer his sacrifice of the Cross with him in the Mass.

 

We read in the earliest traditions that the community must choose men to make them bishops and deacons (Didache 15:1).  We read in Augustine, Bishop of Hippo, that he couldn't do what he wanted without the consent of the community even though he was a bishop (page 155, Papal Sin, Structures of Deceit, Garry Wills, Darton Longman and Todd, London, 2000).  From surveying the early Church records, Father Raymond Brown concluded that when the congregation chose a man to be their priest that choice was suffice for considering them ordained (page 155, Papal Sin).  See also Priest and Bishop:  Biblical Reflections, Paulist Press, 1970.  He also observed that in the New Testament, there is nothing in the New Testament about the Catholic doctrine that only bishops validly descended from the apostles can lay hands on people to make them priests (page 156, Papal Sin).  Acts 6:6 seems to say differently.  There the people choose deacons who go to the apostles and hands are laid on them.  But if you read it carefully it doesn't make it clear who lays hands on them.  It could be the apostles only, or it could be the apostles and the congregation or the congregation only.  Acts cannot be used to defend the Catholic doctrine because the deacons were merely humanitarian workers not ministers.

 

A bishop, Ignatius from the second century said he couldn't command the people to respect their bishop as forcefully like an apostle might (Trallians 3).  He said he couldn't give commands like Peter the apostle or Paul the apostle could for they were apostles while he was a condemned criminal (Romans 4).   He said this while asking his followers not to save him from martyrdom.  He denied the Roman Catholic notion that the bishops have the same authority as the apostles to command.  Romanism says that the bishops have special powers and these powers give them special authority and they must be obeyed.  What emphasises this even more is how Ignatius refused to command things that the apostles commanded already.  It was not as if he was afraid of commanding what they forbid.  Rome and her bishops are not afraid to command stuff that cannot be traced back to the apostles AT ALL!

 

Hebrews 7:23 says that the number of priests had to be big in the times of the Old Covenant before Jesus brought in the New Covenant because they were dying and ceasing to be priests and Christ holds his priesthood forever for he doesn’t die again then we see something interesting.  It shows that there are no real priests but Christ.  And a man being is in danger of death or if death is possible indicates that he cannot be a true priest.  It refutes the Roman Catholic doctrine that Christ lets men share in his priesthood so that they can offer his sacrifice, the sacrifice he made of his life on the cross, with him in the Mass.  These priests die so they are not priests. 

 

This dogma of the apostolic succession is very important to Catholicism.  It justifies having a clerical caste with occult powers that must be obeyed and feared.

 

The sacerdotal or priestly system is a part of Rome’s plan to keep schisms down.  If a group of laypeople could ordain real bishops then the Church would be badly broken up.  They wouldn’t be afraid that breaking with Rome would divorce them from the power of the sacraments.  Rome says that even in cases of absolute necessity nobody can make a bishop but a bishop.  Even if Jesus could prevent a nuclear war or the damnation of millions by truly ordaining a bishop at the hands of a mere priest he wouldn’t do it.  Isn’t it obvious that it is really about maintaining Rome’s power?

 

There is not a trace of the apostolic succession doctrine in the Bible.

 

The Bible says that Paul appointed ministers in the Churches with the laying on of hands but that does not mean that nobody could be a minister or bishop without an apostle doing that.  Perhaps good laymen could create a minister or a bishop depending on the circumstances.  When the Bible says that the Church is founded on the apostles it does not mean that the apostles had to be replaced by bishops or even that the apostles were ordained.  It only says they were to be replaced as administrators and teachers of apostolic doctrine and never as equals or anything else.

 

The doctrine of magical power being passed down a chain of laying on of hands is suspicious when you look at scripture.  Scripture never even says that Jesus laid hands when he allegedly ordained the apostles or even that he ordained them.  He told them to eat bread and drink wine in his memory and to forgive sins according to the Catholic Church.  But if the Bible says he did this and does not say that he passed the power on to them by putting his hands on them then it shows that laying on hands, the essential rite of ordination according to Catholicism, was not a sacrament.  Jesus doesn’t say that it is only a certain caste that will have the power to perform sacraments.  Maybe laypeople can celebrate the communion too.

 

The Bible would not teach half of a doctrine and then leave out the essential.  It would not say that ordination happens and fail to lay it down that laying on of hands is necessary.  So, the Catholic Church is wrong to assume that laying on hands is ordination. 

 

Some would say that Jesus left it to the Church to decide the essential rite of the sacrament.  But a sacrament is an outward sign of a grace that God gives you in your heart.  It is a symbol that does what it symbolises.  If the Church has to make the rite then the sacrament was not instituted by Christ.  For Christ to be the origin would require that Christ lay down the rite.

 

Christ didn’t say we must use the words, “I baptise you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.”

 

Christ didn’t say we must say bread and wine is his body and blood.  He only said we are to share them in his memory.

 

He didn’t give a formula for priests forgiving sins.

 

He didn’t give formula for marriage.  In his day, only the man made the vow for the woman was his possession.

 

All the sacraments are inventions of the Church.

 

It follows that when the sacrament of ordination by the laying on of hands is an invention of the Church that most bishops at the time this was invented couldn’t have been properly ordained.  This error means that there could be real bishops and priests.

 

Apostolic succession in the Catholic sense is not in early tradition.  Ignatius regarded the bishop as representing the apostles and therefore to be obeyed.  But he did not say that he could only become a bishop if the person who ordained him could trace his authority back to the apostles through the laying on of hands.  When Ignatius was so desperate to get people never to go against the bishop he would have brought the doctrine of apostolic succession to the fore if it existed and was practiced.  What he said was that the bishop gets his authority not from men but the Lord.  Cyprian and the rest said that the laying on of hands was needed but never attributed any sacramental efficacy to it.

 

Even in the third century, there were some sections of the Church, notably at Alexandria where the priests ordained bishops and no visiting bishops were called in to do the job (page 50, The Early Church).  The fact that the bishops were voted for by the people and that was how they were chosen shows that the Church then was just a loose organisation and certainly not what was thought to be the only true Church of God.  Had it seen itself in terms of only right religion there would have been tests of orthodoxy and an oath to test if the bishop elect was willing to give unconditional obedience to the pope.  There was not so this organisation was not the Roman Catholic Church which would require bishops to accept papal supremacy.

 

The apostolical succession doctrine was too foundational to be unmentioned or not stressed so it wasn’t known.  The early Christians were in hiding.  Because of their trouble a few main dogmas would have been all the “Christian truth” they had.  There would have been a lot of misunderstanding, ignorance and confusion about Christianity among them.  Many things they heard wouldn’t have been worthy of trust.  Clergy were not trained very well.  Many were barely trained.  Few could rely on the tradition that only bishops could ordain if there was one.  Logically, consecrations and ordinations which are invalid by Roman standards today must have taken place.  The laying on of hands is the essential rite for ordaining.  This isn’t in the Bible or early tradition either.  There must have been lots of invalid ordinations.  If the traditions existed then people had the right to reject them for they were not infallibly defined which more than anything else backs this up.

 

The Roman Catholic Church holds that even an unbeliever can be ordained a bishop validly as long as he is consecrated by a valid bishop.  Second century top theologian, St Irenaeus said that heretical bishops or even orthodox ones who were only after money and honours were not part of the apostolical succession and so not ordained which totally contradicts Roman doctrine.   For the early Church orthodoxy and decency were the most important requirements and the chain of ordinations going back to the apostles, the physical apostolic link regarding the authority, was secondary (page 26, The Catholicity of Protestantism).  The rite of laying hands was not enough which shows that there were many invalid orders in the Church so Irenaeus could not agree with the Catholic doctrine and would have to believe that if a bishop was consecrated by a fake bishop that ordination would work if the candidate was orthodox and godly.

 

So there could be a lot of fake ordinations.  Rome teaches that a heretical bishop who is only pretending to ordain cannot really ordain then.  All Rome has to say about this is that God looks after the Church so well that at least almost all its ordinations are valid.  This is nothing more than a denial of free will and exaggeration of divine providence.  The Church blames man and not God for sin so God has not got that much control.  Their answer is very lame. 

 

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WHO CAN ORDAIN ?

 

In CATHOLICISM (Richard P McBrien, HarperSanFrancisco, New York, 1994) the Catholic doctrine that the power to ordain was passed on by the apostles only to their successors the bishops and so on down to the present day is shown to be bereft of evidence and also no declaration was given until 1208 during the reign of Pope Innocent III that only priests could celebrate Mass (page 867).

 

Roman Catholicism teaches that only validly ordained bishops can ordain priests or bishops.  The bishop is believed to have the full sacrament of holy orders.  The priest receives all of the sacrament barring the power to ordain.   The Church teaches that if a priest was invalidly ordained and a ceremony takes place to make him a bishop the ceremony won’t work.  Only a priest can be validly ordained a bishop.  The Eastern Orthodox Church believes the same as the Catholic Church.

 

Pope Benedict IX who is considered to be a true pope by the Church was only eleven when he became pope in 1032 AD.  This youngster was infamous for his irreligious ways and his promiscuity.  He didn’t know what he was doing not just because of his age but also because of his spiritual immaturity when he became priest, bishop and pope.  He cannot be considered to be a real bishop.  Yet the Church says he was.  If he was then there is only one conclusion that can be drawn.  It is that the boy pope though incapable of having any legal validity and incapable of being validly ordained still had the powers a pope should have which are to maintain the Church by sacraments and that a pope becomes bishop by virtue of being elected even if his consecration as bishop was invalid. 

 

The council of Chalcedon decreed that priests must be ordained only for particular Churches and be called by the people as a priest (page 869, Catholicism).  It was believed that priests who were not called were not validly ordained and received no pay for his priestly work from the Emperor (page 869).  Despite this rule, the Church later ignored it meaning that it produced invalid priests and bishops.  Bishops today who have inherited their powers from such bishops are not bishops at all.

 

Interestingly there were priests ordained under papal permission in the past who were not ordained by bishops but by priests.  The Catholic Church has never made it infallible dogma that only bishops have the power to ordain priests.  The ecumenical  therefore infallible Council of Florence decreed not that the bishop alone had this power but only that the bishop was the ordinary minister of ordination or holy orders (page 1136, 1138, Encyclopedia of Theology, A Concise Sacramentum Mundi, Edited by Fr Karl Rahner, Burns & Oates, London, 1975).   This is interesting because saying somebody is an ordinary minister implies that there can be an extraordinary minister.  And this is what the Church teaches.  For example, the ordinary minister of baptism is a priest but a layperson can baptise when there is no priest in an emergency.  So saying the priest is ordinary minister implies there can be extraordinary or un ordinary ministers.   The bishop is the ordinary minister of confirmation but this does not mean the priest cannot confirm.  Priests occasionally perform confirmations. 

 

Tertullian decades after the Church began was the first to say the bishop had the full priesthood (page 1129).  This came more than a bit late.  The biblical evidence as the Presbyterian Church can tell you is that originally bishops and presbyters (known as priests in the Catholic system who are sometimes called presbyters) were one and the same which is why all ministers have the same rank in Presbyterianism.  One minister might belong to a higher assembly or level but all ministers are equal as ministers.  John Wesley used evidence like this to argue that he had the right and authority as an Anglican priest to ordain bishops for Methodism.  The most authoritative source of tradition and doctrine the Bible supports the idea that priests can ordain bishops and priests assuming it supposes that it matters who ordains. 

 

“The bishop has remained the ordinary minister of confirmation (in the West), and also of orders.  But there are traces in history of exceptions to this rule, which was accepted in principle by the theologians and canonists of the Middle Ages since Huguccio, with no reserves except for papal permission” (page 1136).

 

“We have already mentioned the customs of the Church of Alexandria (possibly also followed by Lyons) as late as the 3rd century, when the bishop was consecrated by the college of presbyters.  Cassian admits that he was he was ordained by the priest Paphnutius in Egypt (Conferences, IV, I)” (page 1136).  The emperor Charlemagne “ordered the priests Willehad (d. 799) and Ludger (d. 785) to ordain other priests in the missionary territories of Frisia and Saxony” (page 1136).   Pope “Boniface I, in Sacrae Religionis (1 February 1400), gave permission to the Abbot of S. Osith in Essex to confer all orders up to and including the priesthood.  This was revoked by the bull Apostolicae Sedis (6 February 1403), at the insistence of the Bishop of London, who felt that his jurisdiction had been interfered with by the abbot.  The revocation was not therefore on dogmatic grounds.  See DS 1145f.  Martin V, in Gerentes ad vos (16 November 1427), also gave permission for orders up to the priesthood (DS 1290) and Innocent VIII, in Exposcit (9 April 1489), up to the deaconate” (page 1136).   Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ott is another book that can verify that Roman Catholicism didn’t always think that priests couldn’t ordain priests.  This is a popular book of catholic doctrine. However there is no proof that Roman Catholicism officially accepted that bishops might be ordained by priests. 

 

The book “Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma” by Dr. Ludwig Ott was translated from German.  It has an imprimatur date of 7th  October 1954 and the following comes from pages 458-459.  The book says: “In regard to the sacramental Order grades of diaconate and presbyterate, most theologians, with St. Thomas, hold the opinion that a simple priest cannot validly administer these, even with plenary power from the Pope.  But there are grave historical difficulties with regard to this opinion: Pope Boniface IX, in agreement with the teachings of numerous medieval canonists (for example, Huguccio d. 1210), by the Bull “Sacrae religionis” on the 1st of February 1400, conferred on the Abbot of the Augustine Monastery of St. Osytha at Essex (Diocese of London) and his successors, the privilege of administering to those subject to them both the Minor Orders and those of the subdiaconate, diaconate and priesthood.  The privilege was withdrawn on 6th February, 1403, on the instance of the Bishop of London.  But the Orders conferred on the ground of the privilege were not declared invalid.  Pope Martin V, by the Bull “Gerentes ad vos” of 16th November, 1427, conferred the privilege on the Abbot of the Cistercian Monastery of Altzelle (Diocese of Meissen) of promoting all his monks and others subject to him for the term of five years, to the higher Orders also (Sub-diaconate, Diaconate, and Presbyterate).  Pope Innocent VIII, by the Bull “Exposcit tuae devotions” of 9th April, 1489,conferred on the four Proto-Abbots of the Cistercian Order and their successors the privilege of ordaining their subordinates to the Sub-diaconate and the Diaconate.  The Cistercian Abbots were still using this privilege in the 17th century without hindrance.   Unless one wishes to assume that the Popes in question were victims of the erroneous theological opinions of their times (this does not touch the Papal infallibility, because an ex cathedra decision was not given), one must take it that a simple priest is an extraordinary dispenser of the Orders of Diaconate and Presbyterate, just as he is an extraordinary dispenser of Confirmation.  In this latter view, the requisite power of consecration is contained in the priestly power of consecration as “potestas ligata.” For the valid exercise of it a special exercise of the Papal power is, by Divine or Church ordinance, necessary.”

 

Rome teaches that if the pope or Church authorised invalid ordination ceremonies for priests and bishops it would mean that Christ’s vow that the gates of Hell would never win where the Church was concerned would have been proven false.  So the Church says it cannot happen.  But history proves it has happened.  So the Church is definitely not infallible and protected against such error though it says it is.  It is just another arrogant human organisation that thinks it can make rules as if it were God.

 

The National Catholic Reporter, February 25th, 2000 reported that Czech priests who were ordained by priests in secret under special permission by Pius XII were ordered by the Vatican to have their ordinations repeated by bishops.  So Pius XII didn’t believe that only bishops could ordain priests.  This goes against the current Vatican fashion.

 

The current Roman Catholic doctrine that only bishops can ordain priests for priests don’t have the power from God to ordain means that many of its current bishops cannot be true bishops for somewhere along the line it was priests that did the ordination of their predecessors as priests or bishops.   To be in communion with a false bishop is to be in schism so this is very serious and shows that Catholic unity isn’t real, it just looks real.   Also to reject bishops or priests ordained by priests is to cause schism for it is unfair.  Schism can be the attitude that some part of the Church is not part of your Church even if this isn’t made public by you.  You are divided from them in your heart even if you pretend to be in communion with them and it appears to the world that you are all one.  Understandably Protestants deny that the true Church is visible – they say it is an invisible communion made by God.  It’s not an organisation but a spiritual closeness.   The Roman Church has rejected many bishops ordained outside Roman Catholicism as having doubtful or non-existent holy orders though the bishops were ordained properly to all appearances.  If priests can ordain bishops then we can be very sure they are really ordained and that the Church shouldn’t be giving the rejects the cold shoulder

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HOLY ORDERS

 

Roman Catholicism teaches that there are three levels in the Sacrament of Holy Orders.  Like the Trinity, there are three roles given by one sacrament!

 

The Deacon is a male who when he receives the laying on of hands by a bishop gets the authority to perform baptisms and marriages and preach.  It is impossible to see how this office can be a sacrament because any layperson can do what the deacon does.  The sacrament of Holy Orders is about giving priestly powers.  However, the deacon has no such powers. 

 

Yet the Church is forced to be stupid and say the diaconate is a sacrament.

 

The Catholic Encyclopedia (www.newadvent.org) says,

 

“Although certain theologians such as Cajetan and Durandus, have ventured to doubt whether the Sacrament of Order is received by deacons, it may be said that the decrees of the Council of Trent are now generally held to have decided the point against them. The council not only lays down that order is truly and properly a sacrament but it forbids under anathema (Sess. XXIII, can. ii) that anyone should deny "that there are in the Church other orders both greater and minor as which as by certain steps advance is made to the priesthood", and it insists that the ordaining bishop does not vainly say "receive ye the Holy Ghost", but by that a character is imprinted by the rite of ordination.”

 

All Catholic theologians have no doubt that the priesthood is certainly a sacrament for therein are given the powers to say mass and absolve sins and give all sacraments apart from the sacrament of Holy Orders.

 

Some have doubted that the consecration of a priest as a bishop is a sacrament.  They would see the ceremony as a non-sacrament but which confers no graces or powers on a priest but just sets him apart to lead the priests.  So the bishop is just a priest with a higher rank.  The Catholic Encyclopedia says,

 

“With regard to the episcopate the Council of Trent defines that bishops belong to the divinely instituted hierarchy, that they are superior to priests, and that they have the power of confirming and ordaining which is proper to them (Sess. XXIII, c. iv, can. 6, 7). The superiority of bishops is abundantly attested in Tradition, and we have seen above that the distinction between priests and bishops is of Apostolic origin. Most of the older scholastics were of opinion that the episcopate is not a sacrament; this opinion finds able defenders even now (e.g., Billot, "De sacramentis", II), though the majority of theologians hold it is certain that a bishop's ordination is a sacrament.”

 

According to the view that Episcopal ordination is not a sacrament, only the bishop has the right to give ordination or confirmation.  But this is not saying priests don’t have these powers – only that they have no right to use them.

 

Holy orders or ordination to the priesthood or as a bishop or deacon is a sacrament in Catholic theology.  Rome teaches that ordination magically gives the priest the power to give magical sacraments and to represent God and teach for him.  Yet the earliest statement on whether the magic powers are limited to the clergy or not is by Tertullian and states that when there are no priests available the layman can baptise and make the offering – that is, offer the Eucharist (page 155, Handbook to the Controversy with Rome, Vol 1).  Tertullian saw the clergy just as people appointed to do a job and for the sake of order in the Church and not as a caste with supernatural powers that nobody else had.  St Frumentius a few years before 368 AD celebrated the Eucharist despite being a layman (page 155, ibid).

 

Catholic sacramentalism says that God is so unloving that he created the law that only priests can absolve sins and laypeople can only forgive sins by baptising if they are already Christians.  God prefers to encourage people to sin and keep them in sin by this law for it causes delay in getting pardon and full protection from sin so that some men may have the honour of removing them regardless of the harm done by this awkward arrangement.  The priests are better than God when he does that for them.  They are more moral than God for they forgive sin with his power which he would not use without their consent.  But he lets people stay in sin though he is well able to absolve them himself.

 

The sacramental system gives power to the priests. 

 

The Bible does not say that priests forgive sins.

 

There are no real priests in the Catholic Church.  The clergy are called priests because during Mass, Jesus’ sacrifice is made present and is offered to God by them on behalf of the living and the dead.  Calvary is still happening for all past and present events are present to the Lord God.  So, the sacrifice is present at all times and not just during Mass.  But when they do not cause the sacrifice to be present they are not priests in the unique sense.  And yet they claim to be priests although everybody who is baptised is considered to be a priest. 

 

A priest has to kill the victim of sacrifice and offer it.  Catholic priests claim to believe that they do not kill Jesus on the altar.  So they are not real priests.  The word for priest in the New Testament is hiereus which means sacrificer or priest (page 110, Papal Sin, Structures of Deceit, Garry Wills, Darton Longman and Todd, London, 2000).  In other words, it means ritual and religious killer.

 

The Church says that Anglican Orders are bogus in accordance with the decree of Leo XIII given in 1897 for there was no intention to make the clergy capable of causing the sacrifice of Christ on the altar or for changing bread and wine into the flesh and blood of Jesus.  The Catholic Church is right about this but fails to see that its own clergy are invalid too for the same reason for they traced their orders through men of long ago who were ordained without the rites that the Roman Church says are an essential part of giving the sacrament of order.  This was pointed out in the Responsio of the Archbishops of England of 1897 which was an answer to the pope’s prejudiced decree (read it on pages 322-325, Documents of the Christian Church).  It argued from the ancient records of tradition that there was disagreement about how to give confirmation whether it be by the individual laying on of hands or chrism.  It was pointed out that Rome’s most ancient ordination manuals did not mention that power to change bread and wine into Jesus or giving the power to offer the sacrifice of the Mass.  The early Church did not offer the sacrifice of the Mass for it universally believed that Jesus offered his sacrifice to Satan to get him to let us go back to God.  This was what was taught by Irenaeus the second century theologian and spokesman for the Church (page 30-31, Documents of the Christian Church).  The idea went unchallenged and was promoted by Origen and accepted as the main theory in the Church (page 274-275, The History of Christianity).  It was not until the time of St Anselm of Canterbury that it began to be doubted.  He was born in 1033 and died in 1109 AD.  He gave origin to the idea that God needed atonement for sin and Jesus paid that atonement.  The new idea appeared when he wrote Cur Deus Homo (Why did God become Man?) (page 279, The History of Christianity, Lion, Herts, 1977).  Soon after that Rome started to declare that the Mass was the sacrifice of the cross and exactly the same sacrifice.

 

The priest only turns the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ.  As for the sacrifice, he offers it but with the people who are priests too.  The priest making the sacrifice of Christ present has nothing to do with the offering of it.  He can make it present without offering.  The offering is as much the job of the priest and the people.  So the priest title applies no more to Roman Catholic clergy than anybody else even if they have the unique powers they claim.  Leo XIII rejected the validity of Anglican orders all because the word priest in the Anglican ordinals didn’t specify that the priest was being made to offer Mass.  This shows total stupidity.  The priest only consecrates and the people offer mass as much as he does. 

 

Can we offer God the sacrifice of his Son?  We can either ask Jesus to offer himself for us or we can offer Jesus directly to God.

 

The first is the godly approach for it is approaching God through Jesus.  It is saying, “I am not worthy so offer yourself for me for I am too sinful to offer you.” 

 

The second says, “I am a great person now God for I am offering you your own son.  I am a great person for it would be better to ask him to offer himself for that is leaving it up to himself if he wants to be offered and is more humble for me.  But I am too good to do that.  It would be beneath me.”

 

Would Jesus give himself to me to offer him?  No.  It’s his sacrifice so he has to do the offering.  If he offers himself there is no need for me to do it.

 

The second approach is just using Jesus because we want to be near to God.  If you were really humble and concerned about God you would let Jesus do the offering for Christianity is about letting the superior being do his own will.  Jesus is not yours to offer for he is a person and not a lump of meat.  The Christian doctrine of the cross denies that Jesus degraded himself for you because he was affirming his own dignity by doing good for you. 

 

Suppose you can offer Jesus.  He will not want you offering him by prayer.  He would want you to live your daily life and sacrifice yourself every day for others as an expression of your desire to offer him to God.  In other words, when Jesus did so much for you it would be insulting to offer him in an easy way and by sacrifice you are making your sacrifice of yourself a prayer that offers Jesus to God.  It is like a mimed prayer.

 

The Mass is too easy.  It cannot be a sacrifice then.  It is blasphemy.

 

Never does the Bible tell us to offer Christ and never does it say that we are priests except in the sense that we offer our prayers and works to God.  When Jesus offered himself what is the point of us offering him?  It makes more sense to approve of him offering himself for us and accept what he did for us.

 

The priests call themselves Father because they think they become the fathers of the grace in our souls when they baptise us.  God claims to be the father of graces so he can’t be impressed about that.  If they are fathers then the person who puts John’s sperm into John’s wife to help her get pregnant is the father of any child that results.  We are the children and they are the parents who can tell us what to do for calling them Father is telling them that they are wiser than us and have authority over us.  Why claim to be an adult’s father when you are not unless you are going to try and control him or her?  Paul was not speaking symbolically when he said that he became the Father of his converts when he led them into belief.  He had only a superficial resemblance to being their father. 

 

Jesus said that we are to call nobody on earth our father.  Catholics state that if this is literal then we need to get a new name for male parents.  But he means that we are not to have spiritual fathers for only God has that role.  He meant it when he said that Jewish ministers should not be called Rabbi (Matthew 23:8).  Therefore the context requires us to take him literally when he bans his devoted people calling themselves fathers, masters, teachers or Rabbis for they are all equal brothers and he is the master, teacher and rabbi.  This means that if there is a New Testament priesthood then we are all priests and should be celebrating the Eucharist. 

 

It may be objected that Jesus did believe in us having leaders as long as the leaders acted like our slaves.  But these leaders only act like leaders but are not.  They do not boss us about or tell us what to do but they advise us and show by example what we are to do.  This eliminates Catholic authoritarianism and infallibilism.  The Church might say that all people are equal in themselves but the priesthood is an office that contradicts this equality.  The whole reason we hate people saying they are better than others or are some kind of superior human being is because it provokes discrimination.  Catholics say terrible things about their priests and that must be the reason they hate them so.  Jesus might see the priests as trying to be like some kind of Nazi master race.  If he is right then the priesthood was not a good example for Hitler.

 

The Roman Catholic priest believes he is better than your own father.  Your own father gave you life but the priest gave you life with God through the sacraments he offers.  The priest is shepherd and father and his flock are his children and his sheep.  He then can exercise the authority of a parent or shepherd even over adults without being accused of being a Lord.  Parents are not Lords of their children though they control them.  The control  is necessary for the child needs guidance and it is not about

 

We are not to put religious leaders before God.  Putting leaders before God is exactly what the Catholic Church does for there is no evidence for its dogmas being true.  When a priest calls himself Father he is saying that he is going to tell you how to approach God instead of directing you to find out what clicks with you in the God thing or what doesn’t.  If he were really godly he would call himself way-shower or guide but not the pretentious father.

 

Jesus said he was the way the truth and the life and no man could get to God but by him.  The apostles taught that Jesus was the only name under Heaven by which a man could be saved.  Jesus said that anybody who got into the kingdom any other way than him was a robber.  The Bible teaches that Jesus is the only way to God.

 

Why is Jesus the only way to God?

 

Is it so that we can get easy and fast access to God through him?

 

It must be for no other reason would justify it.  It makes God friendly and welcoming.

 

How is Jesus the only way to God?

 

Theologians say he is because he has paid for our sins to God.

 

Is Jesus the only way to God because he is the only person who can atone for our sin?

 

The Catholic Church says he is and so that his role doesn’t mean he cannot have people who are the only way to him such as priests.

 

Jesus said, “I am the way”.  He didn’t say, “I will be the way”, meaning that he would become the way when he is crucified for sins.  He was the way when he spoke.  He told people who didn’t know of his plan to atone for sin that he was the way for them and the way they must use NOW.  For them, he could be the way only if he was treated as the only spokesman for God and the man who had to put you right with God and the direct line to God.  Priests who claim to mediate between Jesus and the people are committing a heresy so great that they are NOT true Christians.

 

Jesus atoning for sins would not necessarily mean he was the way.  He would be merely taking away the sins or the barrier between man and God.  The bulldozer that takes down a wall that stops you getting to the Hotel is not the way to the hotel.  Jesus being the way means more than him just breaking down a wall but showing you the way and leading you personally.  He does it alone.  He doesn’t use intermediaries.

 

If you need priests to let you near Jesus then the priests are in effect the only way to God if only that they are the only way to the only way to God.  Jesus promised delivery from oppression and the danger of oppression including religious oppression.  That was why in God’s plan he had to be the only way to God.  The priesthood of the Roman Catholic Church denies this.  If the priesthood are needed for salvation then clearly what objection could there be to the idea that you need some man’s permission to go to Jesus?  The Catholic priesthood gives you permission to become baptised and be a Catholic, it gives you permission to go to Heaven after forgiving your sins in confession and need I go on?  What objection could there be that you need to go to Lourdes or pray to a certain statue before Jesus can save you?  The doctrine of Jesus being the only way is about Jesus being easy access to God for everybody with nobody getting in the way.

 

The Catholic Church teaches that all are priests but that the ministry of ordained priests is different.  It states that the difference is one of essence and not only one in degree (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, nn 11, 30, 31).  See Catholicism by Richard P McBrien on page 872.  It wouldn't be so bad if if the Church taught that ordained priests were lay priests taken up to a new level.  But to make them a different essence is to make them in effect a superior species.  Lay priests can offer Mass but they need the ordained priest to celebrate mass for them.  The most important thing, the authority to offer resides in both.  The difference in essence is hard to see unless the ordained priest is being arbitrarily declared to be a super man, a person with the right to be a snob.

 

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GOD’S WORD REFUTES THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS

 

The function of a priest is to offer sacrifice.  So accordingly, the reason why the Catholic Church calls its ministers priests is that they are thought to have the power to offer Jesus’ sacrifice by saying Mass.  They make it present again to offer it to God.  So God goes to the trouble of a useless miracle just so that the Catholic Church can call its ministers priests.  The Sacrifice doesn’t need to be made present to be offered.  If this doctrine of the Mass being sacrifice is untrue then priests are not priests at all.

 

Rome says, “In Malachi 1:10-11, God says that among the Gentiles one perfect sacrifice will be offered all the time. This predicts the Mass.

 

The truth is that the context is about animal sacrifices.  The Jews as a whole offered one sacrifice to God.

 

Hebrews 10:11 says that the sacrifices of the old priesthood could not remove sins simply because they were repeated all the time. The sacrifices would have been stopped by God had there been enough of them (Hebrews 10:2). The Church says these sacrifices represented the sacrifice of Christ and through that sacrifice forgiveness was granted for making these sacrifices but in themselves the offerings could not pardon sin. So it was the future sacrifice of Christ that the power of forgiveness came from not the sacrifices.  The sacrifice of Calvary was present at these rites and they were appropriating it.  It follows then that these sacrifices were Masses if it is true that the sacrifice of Jesus being present for offering at Mass just means it is in the timeless estate. In that light the repetition should not be a problem. Hebrews says it is therefore Hebrews opposes the Masses of the Roman Catholics.  If Masses looking forward had no merit because of repetition then ones looking back are no better.

 

Hebrews 10 says that Christ offered one sacrifice for sins and then SAT DOWN at the right hand of God. The sitting down is an expression to clarify that Christ was doing no more offering.  Notice how it says that he offered one sacrifice and doesn’t say he sacrificed the once instead.  It is not the sacrifice that it is saying is finished but the offering of the sacrifice a different thing.  Therefore Christ though a priest in office doesn’t offer any more.  The priests of Rome offering the sacrifice are claiming to be better than him.  They are offering a sacrifice that is illegitimate because Christ doesn’t offer it any more.  The Mass is blasphemous.

 

Hebrews 13:10 says that Christians have an altar of sacrifice from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat. This is symbolism for the book uses the symbols of tabernacles and other Old Testament items to illustrate Christian themes. 

 

Catholics allege that the words Jesus said at the Last Supper imply that his sacrifice was present then and that to celebrate the ritual is to offer it to God. Neither are true. The words are symbolic. The words imply that he offered himself to God for others and he asks for the rite to be celebrated in his memory but does not say, “Say these words in memory of me”.

 

Hebrews 4:16 and Hebrews 10:17 taken together say that Christians can now march boldly to the throne of God which is in the holiest place in heaven WHENEVER THEY WISH.  The Catholic would have to say this only happens at Mass for the Mass is supposedly the closest you get to God and the holiest place on earth.  The whole point of the salvation won by Christ is that so you can go to him whenever you need to or wish instead of having to look for a human priest. 

 

The New Testament never says that there are sacrificing priests in the Christian Church. The word translated priest in fraudulent Catholic Bibles is presbyter which simply means elder.

 

 Conclusion

 

The claims of certain men in the Catholic Church to be priests makes no sense.  Their claim is just a heresy.  They are not priests.  They do not have special powers.

 

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BOOKS CONSULTED 

 

A GREAT LEGACY, Rev RJ Coates, Irish Church Mission, Dublin

A PATH FROM ROME, Anthony Kenny Sidgwick & Jackson, London, 1985

A ROMAN CATECHISM WITH A REPLY THERETO, John Wesley Protestant Truth Society, London 

A WOMAN RIDES THE BEAST, Dave Hunt, Harvest House, Eugene, Oregon, 1994

ALL ONE BODY – WHY DON’T WE AGREE?  Erwin W Lutzer, Tyndale, Illinois, 1989

AN ACCOUNT OF ARCHBISHOP JAMES USHER 1581-1656, ND Emerson MA PhD, Townsend Street, Dublin  

APOSTOLICAL SUCCESSION, James Heron, Outlook Press, Belfast 

BIBLICAL EXEGESIS AND CHURCH DOCTRINE, Raymond E Brown, Paulist Press, New York, 1985 

BUT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY SO, Rev Roberto Nisbet, Church Book Room Press, London 1966

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, Veritas, Dublin, 1995

CATHOLICISM, Richard P McBrien, HarperSanFrancisco, New York, 1994

CATHOLICISM AND CHRISTIANITY, Cecil John Cadoux, George Allen & Unwin Ltd, 1928

CATHOLICISM AND FUNDAMENTALISM, Karl Keating, Ignatius Press, San Francisco, 1988

CHRISTIANS GUIDE TO ROMAN CATHOLICISM, Bill Jackson, Colonial Baptist Press, Louisville, Kentucky, 1988

CITY OF GOD, St Augustine, Penguin Books, Middlesex, 1986 

DAWN OR TWILIGHT? HM Carson, IVP, Leicester, 1976 

DEAR CATHOLIC FRIEND, John R Rice, Sword of the Lord, Murfreesboro, Tennessee, 1989

DIFFICULTIES, Mgr Ronald Knox and Sir Arnold Lunn, Eyre & Spottiswoode, London, 1958

DOCUMENTS OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH, edited by Henry Bettenson, Oxford University Press, Oxford, 1979 

ENCHIRIDION SYMBOLORUM ET DEFINITIONUM, Heinrich Joseph Denzinger, Edited by A Schonmetzer, Barcelona, 1963

EVANGELICAL CATHOLICS A NEW PHENOMENON, Stanley Mawhinney, Christian Ministries Incorporated, Dundrum, Dublin, 1992

FUTURIST OR HISTORICIST? Basil C Mowll, Protestant Truth Society, London 

HANDBOOK TO THE CONTROVERSY WITH ROME, Karl Von Hase, Vols 1 and 2, The Religious Tract Society, London, 1906

HOW SURE ARE THE FOUNDATIONS?  Colin Badger, Wayside Press, Canada

HOW TO CHOOSE YOUR VOCATION IN LIFE, Thomas Artz C.SS.R, Liguori Publications, Missouri, 1976

INFALLIBILITY IN THE CHURCH, Patrick Crowley, CTS, London, 1982

IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH A BIBLE CHURCH?  John Hamrogue, C.SS.R, Liguori, Missouri, 1983  

IS THERE SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH?  Fr J Bainvel SJ, TAN, Illiniois, 1979 

LETTERS TO A ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIEST, H A Ironside, Loizeaux Brothers, New Jersey, 1982 

LION CONCISE BOOK OF CHRISTIAN THOUGHT, Tony Lane, Lion, Herts, 1984 

LIVING IN CHRIST, A Dreze SJ, Geoffrey Chapman, London-Melbourne 1969   

LOOK!  THE DOUAY BIBLE AGAINST ROME, Connellan Mission, Dublin 

MORAL PHILOSOPHY, Joseph Rickaby SJ, Stonyhurst Philosophy Series, Longmans, Green and Co, London, 1912 

NEW CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA, The Catholic University of America and the McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc., Washington, District of Columbia, 1967 

OUGHT I TO SEND MY CHILD TO A CONVENT SCHOOL? Rev Walter H Denbow, Protestant Truth Society, London, 1969 

PAPAL SIN, STRUCTURES OF DECEIT, Garry Wills, Darton Longman and Todd, London, 2000

ROMAN CATHOLIC CLAIMS, Charles Gore MA, Longmans, London, 1894  

ROMAN CATHOLIC OBJECTIONS ANSWERED, Rev H O Lindsay, John T Drought Ltd, Dublin 

ROMAN CATHOLIC TEACHING CONTRASTED WITH BIBLE TEACHING, Bernard Burt, The Bible Student Press, Coventry

ROMAN CATHOLICISM TESTED BY THE SCRIPTURES, John A Coleman, New Litho Pty. Ltd, Victoria, 1987

ROMAN CATHOLICISM WHAT IS FINAL AUTHORITY?  Harold J Berry, Back to the Bible, Nebraska, 1974 

ROMAN CATHOLICISM, Lorraine Boettner, Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Company, Phillipsburg, NJ, 1962 

ROMANISM AT VARIANCE WITH THE BIBLE, Rev James Gardner, Protestant Truth Society, London, 1987

ROME HAS SPOKEN, A GUIDE TO FORGOTTEN PAPAL STATEMENTS AND HOW THEY HAVE CHANGED THROUGH THE CENTURIES, Maureen Fiedler and Linda Rabben (Editors), Crossroad Publishing, New York, 1998

ROME THE GREAT PRIVATE INTERPRETER, Peter S Ruckman Penascola Bible Press, Palatka, Florida, 1969

SALVATION, THE BIBLE AND ROMAN CATHOLICISM, William Webster, Banner of Truth, Edinburgh, 1990

SECRETS OF ROMANISM, Joseph Zacchello, Loizeaux Brothers, New Jersey, 1984

THE ADVANCE OF ROMANISM, S M Houghton, Cotswold Bible Witness, 1964 

THE BIBLE OR THE CHURCH? Ken Camplin, Printland Publishers, India, 1996 

THE BIBLE REFUTES ROMANISM Philip H Rand Protestant Truth Society, London 

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS THE ANSWER, Paul Whitcomb TAN, Illinois, 1986

THE CHURCH AND INFALLIBILITY, BC Butler, The Catholic Book Club, London, undated

THE CHURCH OF ROME AND THE WORD OF GOD, Rev Eric C Last, Protestant Truth Society, London

THE DEVELOPMENTS OF ROMAN CATHOLICISM, John A Bain MA, Oliphant Anderson & Ferrier, Edinburgh and London, undated 

THE EARLY CHURCH, Henry Chadwick, Pelican, Middlesex, 1987

THE GREAT MEANS OF SALVATION AND OF PERFECTION, St Alphonsus De Ligouri, Redemptorist Fathers, Brooklyn, 1988

THE HISTORY OF CHRISTIANITY, Lion, Herts, 1977

THE MOTHER OF GOD AND OUR INTERIOR LIFE, Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, OP, TAN, Illinois, 1993

THE PRIMITIVE FAITH AND ROMAN CATHOLIC DEVELOPMENTS, Rev John A F Gregg BD, APCK, Dublin, 1928 

THE RICHES OF ROME AND THE UNSEARCHABLE RICHES OF CHRIST Robert D Browne, Protestant Truth Society, London 

THE STUDENT’S CATHOLIC DOCTRINE, Rev Charles Hart BA, Burns & Oates, London, 1961 

THE TRUE CHURCH AND THE FALSE, The National Union of Protestants, Suffolk 

THE VATICAN PAPERS, Nino Lo Bello, New English Library, Kent, 1982 

TRADITIONAL DOCTRINES OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH EXAMINED, Rev CCJ Butlin, Protestant Truth Society, London

TREASURES FROM GOD’S STOREHOUSE, Dr Bill Jackson, Colonial Baptist Press, Louisville, Kentucky, 1991

VICARS OF CHRIST, Peter De Rosa, Corgi Books, London, 1993 

WHAT HAPPENED!  Francisco Lacueva, Evangelical Protestant Society, Belfast 

WHY BE A CATHOLIC?  Fr David Jones OP, Catholic Truth Society, London, 1996 

WHY I AM NOT A ROMAN CATHOLIC, Rev Canon McCormick DD, Protestant Truth Society, London, 1968 

YOU CAN LEAD ROMAN CATHOLICS TO CHRIST, Wilson Ewin, New England Mission, Nashua 1980 

 

BIBLE VERSION USED

The Amplified Bible 

 

THE WWW

 

The Anti-Catholic Bible

www.catholic.com/library/The_Anti_Catholic_Bible.asp

 

Christians versus the Lies of Catholicism

www.cephasministry.com

 

 

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